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Topic: Can There Really Be Such A Thing As "Nothingness"
Bizza
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Can There Really Be Such A Thing As "Nothingness"?
on: November 19, 2009, 08:19

Based on the premise: “Something cannot come from nothing”, one could deduce and conclude that “nothingness” could never have existed. This premise is justifiable if we look at science and in particular; Quantum Physics. If something has always existed, then nothingness could not be logical, let alone fathomable.


What do you all think?



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Mrj
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Re: Can There Really Be Such A Thing As "Nothingness"
on: November 20, 2009, 17:43

I think so too, since Quantum Physics tells us that even in “empty” space there are interactions of matter, anti-matter, and energy. I think nothingness is really just an idea. For example, “nothingness” could have been used to describe the space within an “empty” jar, purely due to not seeing anything inside. But we know now that there easily could be air, pathogens and small particles inside, to say the least.


I think its kind of like being underwater. See, when you’re underwater, waving your hands around doesn’t make any bubbles because there is no air to move underwater. I think our universe is sorta like that, only the water keeps going forever and there is no surface, at least one we can reach anyway. (Multiple universes maybe? Or maybe it’s where water and oil meet)



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Re: Can There Really Be Such A Thing As "Nothingness"
on: November 20, 2009, 21:13

That was beautifully put MrJ. The water analogy is a great way to look at it. 😉


So, if there is (and always was) something(s), and an ‘infinite regress’ (aka, infinite chain of causes) is illogical (since it always begs the question), then we could only deduce that our Universe either began from an eternal cycle of Big Bangs and Big Crunches (“Oscillating Universe”)… or… that it began via a truly uncaused (and therefore, eternal) existent.


The multiverse theory doesn’t really sit well with me at the moment, simply because it poses a few problems with all 3 laws of Thermodynamics.



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