Posts tagged Encounters
About the possibility of Ibn Sayyad being the Dajjal;
002.023.437 – Narrated Ibn ‘Umar:
‘Umar set out along with the Prophet (p.b.u.h) with a group of people to Ibn Saiyad till they saw him playing with the boys near the hillocks of Bani Mughala. Ibn Saiyad at that time was nearing his puberty and did not notice (us) until the Prophet stroked him with his hand and said to him, “Do you testify that I am Allah’s Apostle?” Ibn Saiyad looked at him and said, “I testify that you are the Messenger of illiterates.” Then Ibn Saiyad asked the Prophet (p.b.u.h), “Do you testify that I am Allah’s Apostle?” The Prophet (p.b.u.h) refuted it and said, “I believe in Allah and His Apostles.” Then he said (to Ibn Saiyad), “What do you think?” Ibn Saiyad answered, “True people and liars visit me.” The Prophet said, “You have been confused as to this matter.” Then the Prophet said to him, “I have kept something (in my mind) for you, (can you tell me that?)” Ibn Saiyad said, “It is Al-Dukh (the smoke).” (2) The Prophet said, “Let you be in ignominy (disgrace; dishonour; public contempt). You cannot cross your limits.” On that ‘Umar, said, “O Allah’s Apostle! Allow me to chop his head off.” The Prophet (p.b.u.h) said, “If he is he (i.e. Dajjal), then you cannot over-power him, and if he is not, then there is no use of murdering him.” (Ibn ‘Umar added): Later on Allah’s Apostle (p.b.u.h) once again went along with Ubai bin Ka’b to the date-palm trees (garden) where Ibn Saiyad was staying. The Prophet (p.b.u.h) wanted to hear something from Ibn Saiyad before Ibn Saiyad could see him, and the Prophet (p.b.u.h) saw him lying covered with a sheet and from where his murmurs were heard. Ibn Saiyad’s mother saw Allah’s Apostle while he was hiding himself behind the trunks of the date-palm trees. She addressed Ibn Saiyad, “O Saf ! (and this was the name of Ibn Saiyad) Here is Muhammad.” And with that Ibn Saiyad got up. The Prophet said, “Had this woman left him (Had she not disturbed him), then Ibn Saiyad would have revealed the reality of his case.
The swearing of Ibn Sayyad being Dajjal;
009.092.453 – Narrated Muhammad bin Al-Munkadir:
I saw Jabir bin ‘Abdullah swearing by Allah that Ibn Sayyad was the Dajjal. I said to Jabir, “How can you swear by Allah?” Jabir said, “I have heard ‘Umar swearing by Allah regarding this matter in the presence of the Prophet and the Prophet did not disapprove of it.”
The audacity of Ibn Sayyad when he was a child and in rejecting to sit with the Prophet (pbuh) with other children when called;
041.6990 – ‘Abdullah reported: We were along with Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) that we happened to pass by children amongst whom there was Ibn Sayyad. The children made their way but Ibn Sayyad kept sitting there (and it seemed) as if Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) did not like it (his sitting with the children) and said to him: May your nose he besmeared with dust, don’t you bear testimony to the fact that I am the Messenger of Allah? Thereupon he said: No, but you should bear testimony that I am the messenger of Allah. Thereupon ‘Umar b. Khattab said: Allah’s Messenger, permit me that I should kill him. Thereupon Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: If he is that person who is in your mind (Dajjal ), you will not be able to kill him.
Another encounter with Ibn Sayyad guessing what was on the mind of the Prophet (pbuh) upon being asked what it may be;
041.6991 – ‘Abdullah reported: We were walking with Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) that Ibn Sayyad happened to pass by him. Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said to him: I have concealed for you (something to test you, so tell me that). He said: It is Dukh. Thereupon Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said to him: Be off. You cannot get farther than your rank, whereupon ‘Umar said: Allah’s Messenger, permit me to strike his neck. Thereupon Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Leave him; if he is that one (Dajjal) whom you apprehend, you will not be able to kill him.
Ibn Sayyad causing confusion in Abu Sa’id’s mind about the accusations of him (Ibn Sayyad) being called the Dajjal and almost convincing him;
041.6994 – Abu Sa’id reported: I accompanied Ibn Sayyad to Mecca and he said to me: What I have gathered from people is that they think that I am Dajjal. Have you not heard Allah’s Messenger (may peace upon him) as saying: He will have no children, I said: Yes, of course. Thereupon he said: But I have children. Have you not heard Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: He would not enter Mecca and Medina? I said: Yes, of course. Thereupon he said I have been once in Medina and now I intend to go to Mecca. And he said to me at the end of his talk: By Allah: I know his place of birth his abode where he is just now. He (Abu Sa’id) said: This caused confusion in my mind (in regard to his identity).
More audacious comments made by Ibn Sayyad and of him not resenting being the Dajjal if he were asked to be the same person;
041.6995 – Abu Sa’id Khudri reported: Ibn Sa’id said to me something for which I felt ashamed. He said: I can excuse others; but what has gone wrong with you, O Companions of Muhammad, that you take me as Dajjal? Has Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) not said that he would be a Jew whereas I am a Muslim and he also said that he would not have children, whereas I have children, and he also said: verily, Allah has prohibited him to enter Mecca whereas I have performed Pilgrimage, and he went on saying this that I was about to be impressed by his talk. He (however) said this also: I know where he (Dajjal) is and I know his father and mother, and it was said to him: Won’t you feel pleased if you would be the same person? Thereupon he said: If this offer is made to me, I would not resent that.
Another narration of Ibn Sayyad almost causing confusion in Abu Sa’id’s mind about the accusations of him (Ibn Sayyad) being called the Dajjal;
041.6996 – Abu Sa’id Khudri reported: We came back after having performed Pilgrimage or ‘Umra and lbn Sa’id was along with us. And we encamped at a place and the people dispersed and I and he were left behind. I felt terribly frightened from him as it was said about him that he was the Dajjal. He brought his goods and placed them by my luggage and I said: It is intense heat. Would you not place that under that tree? And he did that. Then there appeared before us a flock of sheep. He went and brought a cup of milk and said: Abu Sa’id, drink that. I said it is intense heat and the milk is also hot (whereas the fact was) that I did not like to drink from his hands or to take it from his hand and he said: Abu Sa’id, I think that I should take a rope and suspend it by the tree and then commit suicide because of the talks of the people, and he further said. Abu Sa’id he who is ignorant of the saying of Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) (he is to be pardoned), but O people of Ansar, is this hadith of Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) concealed from you whereas you have the best knowledge of this hadith of Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) amongst people? Did Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) not say that he (Dajjal) would be a non believer whereas I am a believer? Did Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) not say he would be barren and no child would be born to him, whereas I have left my children in Medina? Did Allah’s Messenger (may peace upon him) not say: He would not get into Medina and Mecca whereas I have been coming from Medina and now I intend to go to Mecca? Abu Sa’id said: I was about to accept the excuse put forward by him. Then he said: I know the place where he would be born and where he is now. So I said to him: May your whole day be spent.
The Prophet (pbuh) not denying that Ibn Sayyad is the Dajjal after being asked by a companion;
041.6999 – ‘Muhammad b. Munkadir reported: As I saw Jabir b. ‘Abdullah taking an oath in the name of Allah that it was Ibn Sa’id who was the Dajjal I said: Do you take an oath in the name of Allah? Thereupon he said: I heard ‘Umar taking an oath in the presence of Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) to this effect but Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) did not disapprove of it.
A long narration describing the encounters our Prophet (pbuh) made with the troubling Ibn Sayyad and the consequent warning and detailed descriptions he gave to his companions about the Dajjal, more so than any other Prophet before him;
041.7000 – ‘Abdullah b. Umar reported: ‘Umar b. Khattab went along with Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) in the company of some persons to Ibn Sayyad that he found him playing with children near the settlement of Bani Maghala and Ibn Sayyad was at that time just at the threshold of adolescence and he did not perceive (the presence of Holy Prophet) until Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) struck his back with his hands. Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Ibn Sayyad, don’t you bear witness that I am the messenger of Allah? Ibn Sayyad looked toward him and he said: I bear witness to the fact that you are the messenger of the unlettered. Ibn Sayyad said to the Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him): Do you bear witness to the fact that I am the messenger of Allah? Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) rejected this and said: I affirm my faith in Allah and in His messengers. Then Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said to him: What do you see? Ibn Sayyad said: It us a Dukh. Thereupon Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: May you be disgraced and dishonoured, you would not be able to go beyond your rank. ‘Umar b. Khattab said: Allah’s Messenger, permit me that I should strike his neck. Thereupon Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: If he is the same (Dajjal) who would appear near the Last Hour, you would not be able to overpower him, and he is not that ther is no good for you to kill him. ‘Abdullah b. ‘Umar further narrated that after some time Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) and Ubayy b. Ka’b went towards the palm trees where Ibn Sayyad was. When Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) went near the tree he hid himself behind a tree with the intention of hearing something from Ibn sayyad before Ibn Sayyad could see him, but Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) saw him on a bed with a blanket around him from which a murmuring sound was being heard and Ibn Sayyad’s mother saw Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) behind the trunk of the palm tree. She said to Ibn Sayyad: Saf (that being his name), here is Muhammad. Thereupon Ibn Sayyad jumped up murmuring and Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: If she had left him alone he would have made things clear. Abdullah b. Umar told that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) stood up amongst the people and lauded Allah as He deserved, then he made a mention of the Dajjal and said: I warn you of him and there is no Prophet who has not warned his people against the Dajjal. Even Noah warned (against him) but I am going to tell you a thing which no Prophet told his people. You must know that he (the Dajjal) is one-eyed and Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, is not one-eyed. Ibn Shihab said: ‘Umar b. Thabit al-Ansari informed me that some of the Companions of Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) informed him that the day when Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) warned people against the Dajjal, he also said: There would be written between his two eyes (the word) Kafir (infidel) and everyone who would resent his deeds would be able to read or every Muslim would be about to read, and he also said: Bear this thing in mind that none amongst you would be able to see Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, until he dies.
How Ibn Umar was enraged by a comment made by Ibn Sayyad on a path in Medina and a warning from his sister (also the Prophet’s (pbuh) wife) Hafsa; not to incite anger on Ibn Sayyad as this is what will make Dajjal appear in the world;
041.7003 – Nafi’ reported that Ibn ‘Umar met Ibn Si’id on some of the paths of Medina and he said to him a word which enraged him and he was so much swollen with anger that the way was blocked. Ibn ‘Umar went to Hafsa and informed her about this. Thereupon she said: May Allah have mercy upon you, why did you incite Ibn Sayyad in spite of the fact that you knew it would be the extreme anger which would make Dajjal appear in the world?
Another more detailed narration on the encounter between Ibn Umar and Ibn Sayyad, and the consequent warning from his sister (also the Prophet’s (pbuh) wife) Hafsa; not to incite anger on Ibn Sayyad as this (anger) is what will make Dajjal appear in the world;
041.7004 – Nafi’ reported that Ibn ‘Umar said: I met lbn Sayyad twice and said to some of them (his friends): You state that it was he (the Dajjal). He said: By Allah, it is not so. I said: You have not told me the truth; by Allah some of you informed me that he would not die until he would have the largest number of offspring and huge wealth and it is he about whom it is thought so. Then Ibn Sayyad talked to us. I then departed and met him again for the second time and his eye had been swollen. I said: What has happened to your eye? He said: I do not know. I said: This is in your head and you do not know about it? He said: If Allah so wills He can create it (eye) in your staff. He then produced a sound like the braying of a donkey. Some of my companions thought that I had struck him with the staff as he was with me that the staff broke into pieces, but, by Allah, I was not conscious of it. He then came to the ‘Mother of the Faithful’ (Hafsa) and narrated it to her and she said: What concern you have with him? Don’t you know that Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) said that the first thing (by the incitement of which) he would come out before the public would be his anger?
Another narration where it was heard Umar swearing that Ibn as-Sayyad is the Dajjal to the Prophet (pbuh) and the Prophet (pbuh) not denying this;
Sunan Abu Dawud
037.4317 – Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah:
Muhammad ibn al-Munkadir told that he saw Jabir ibn Abdullah swearing by Allah that Ibn as-Sa’id was the Dajjal (Antichrist). I expressed my surprise by saying: You swear by Allah! He said: I heard Umar swearing to that in the presence of the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him), but the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) did not make any objection to it.